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jtk. ([personal profile] willrevile) wrote2016-07-24 07:08 pm

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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-08 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Spock turns and looks at Jim with a raised eyebrow. A question forming slowly in his chemical-soaked mind. Something he is sure isn't right but can't seem to figure out how to put into words, just yet. So he starts simpler.

"Your willingness is pointless if you were not given the opportunity to choose."

He takes another sip of his drink which doesn't help his mental fuzz, but it's helping him talk. A lot. So maybe that's alright.

"He manipulated you. How do you know your belief that the greater good was served is not something he planted to assure you would not protest to his actions?" Spock, at times, doesn't know how he and the other version of him can have the same DNA. Have known the same people.

Sometimes he wonders what happened to make him do the things that he's done, here. A lost bondmate, perhaps. That...could be a particularly strong motivator.
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-08 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
"You chose all of that after the encounter with my counterpart," Spock points out. Because, drunk or not, he knows how the chronology worked out. "Who knows what he said to you in order to get you to agree with his plan?" Jim knew. But they haven't discussed it, really.

They haven't talked about it at all, come to think of it. Not even a little.

Spock takes another sip and extrapolates. "When he saw you...he saw the memory of his lover, alive once more. Perhaps even a bondmate, if they had progressed in their relationship far enough. Given how long the other Spock existed without his Jim, it would serve to reason his already significant emotionally compromised state was exacerbated all the more, seeing you. I imagine his judgement was clouded. What seemed to be for the greater good was moreso for his own. He-"

A thought occurs to him. A memory of Jim's relief when Spock had said he hadn't melded with himself. And something cold drops into his stomach, spreading out like a virus from the spot.

"Did he...meld with you?"
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-08 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Spock feels physically ill. And it has nothing to do with the chocolate he's drank.

"Jim," he hisses between his teeth, setting the mug on the table before getting up to his feet and walking over to the window. His hands ball into fists and press against the frame , white-knuckled and shaking with the strain. "Jim. Why did you not tell me?"

He can't look at his friend. Not when he feels a bit like he was the one who had just violated him. Illogical, certainly, but that doesn't stop him from feeling it. Everything from the last few years is in question, now. Jim's mental state alone is in question. Spock's head bows forward, taking his shoulders with it. The plastic beneath his knuckles bends, just ever so slightly.

"You should have told me."
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-08 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
He's drunk, but Spock is not stupid. He turns, face open and incredulous in his inebriation as he tries to comprehend all that Jim is telling him. "How many times have you melded with him?" he asks. And the rage behind those eight words is enough to melt through steel. It is a hearkening back to that day when he had demanded Jim thrown off the ship. Proof in exhibit A for his emotional state.

"Considering the first act was not consensual and the subsequent ones were likely done after the insinuation of this being normal had already been planted, you...do not understand what has been done. What I..." He stops. His stomach has roiled in rebellion from what he has heard. What he apparently is capable of.

"I am sorry, Jim. I am...unsure of what else to say. How to make amends for such a violation." He wishes now that he hadn't drank. It's hard to differentiate where his illness and disgust are originating from. "I am...truly sorry."
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-09 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
"That remains to be seen, Jim," Spock argues. And if Jim's face is broadcasting hurt then Spock's is as well, but on a different, quieter frequency. "He...accessed your mind. Someone who shares my very DNA has...abused the privilege granted to us through our race to...reclaim something that was not his, here." He can see it now. Can understand it, on some level. If he came across another version of his mother, he can understand the appeal of wanting to supply her with everything she would need to know in order to be the person he had lost.

But it wasn't right. And it wasn't fair. And the feeling inside of him that is telling him that Jim's regard for him is false is only growing by the second.

"You cannot assess the damage that has been done to you. What...has been changed. Added to your mind without your consent." He moves away from the wall, toward the direction of he bathroom. His face is pale in a way that might suggest a physical response to his emotions, but he's managing it alright for the time being.

"You should see a healer."
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-10 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's hard to say what turns his stomach more. True, he hasn't drank in a long time and shooting a full glass of strong cocoa wasn't the smartest way to get back into the swing of it, but he was reasonably sure that he would have kept it down if he wasn't also reeling from the fact that his best friend may have been a fabrication. May have been nothing more than a lonely version of himself recreating a lover he had long lost.

He wonders what it must have been like to be that desperate. Or was the other Spock desperate at all? Was this normal for him? To just push into an unknowing, unwilling mind?

What was he like, there? What was he capable of becoming?

Spock is surprised by Jim's agreeing, but it is muted behind everything else roiling around in his body. "I will," he promises. "The healer will be able to see the damage. They may even be able to fix it."

But, at that point, what would that do to Jim? What would that do to the man who had become his friend?
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-10 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
The answer that question is complicated, depending on what sort of 'alright' Jim is asking about. However, as his stomach quails once more, he supposes no matter which way he meant it, the answer is 'No'. He doesn't have the opportunity to say it, however. Almost a second after the feeling grips him, he's bending forward, throwing up the liquid he shouldn't have consumed in the first place.

He should have known better, after all. And it was better out than in, at this point.

He threw up the brown liquid, gripping Jim's toilet with white knuckles, actively helping the purging along to rid himself of the poison he willfully contaminated himself with. It didn't take much, really. His mind was spiraling over everything his counterpart had done and that made it all...quite simple.

He would need to meditate. For awhile, after this was all over. Perhaps forever, trying to understand why this had happened. And how bad it must have been for Jim to readily accept and welcome such...invasions.

Maybe that said more things about Jim than it did about the other Spock. However, now, it was impossible to tell where one started and the other ended.
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-10 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Spock isn't stifling a damned thing. One retching leads right into the next as he clears his system of the whole mess. 40% cacao might have been too strong, he recognizes belatedly. But there is no way to take it back now. Just to keep getting it out of his body.

After a few minutes, he pauses, panting into the bowl before pressing the button to have it all taken away. He's not sure if he's done, but he is definitely sure that he doesn't want to look at it anymore.

"I...apologize," he says between inhales. "I have...made myself ill. Once I am recovered...I will leave." He's not sure how while the world is still spinning, but he'll figure it out. His head dips forward, resting on the edge of the bowl, his mind behind that forehead still circling over all he's now learned.

"I do not wish to experience a world where we are not friends." Which might have been intended to stay in his head, but now it's out there. "But is that desire more important than mental autonomy?"
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-10 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
This seems to be coming out of nowhere and Spock isn't sure if its because he's too inebriated to follow basic logic or if Jim is just not exhibiting any. Considering that the latter is normal for the man, Spock defaults to the more likely of the two and abandons trying to figure out what this is referring to.

"You did not. Your record states you were..." His mind is a bit fuzzy, so it takes a second or so to recall it. "Located in Iowa by then-Captain Pike who assisted in your enlisting. That is all. And I do not engage in petty gossip, so I did not learn more."
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-10 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
The only reason that Spock obeys Jim's command to drink slowly is because he's not quite sure he can stomach even a drop of this water. He takes barely a tooth-full at a time, not even making a dent into the amount of water he has remaining to be drank. But within seconds, he's not thinking about the water, anymore. He's too confused.

"I...do not understand the relevance of this anecdote," he says. Because that's a lot kinder than asking Jim if he is drunk as well. At least that would explain this non-sequitur. But he's listening, all the same. And it makes a small amount of sense. He'd not known Uhura at the time, but he'd heard from her the story of meeting Jim in the bar. He'd had no idea that Pike had also found him there. Nor that this was the moment that he'd been recruited.

Spock had assumed this all occurred in San Francisco, actually. Which gave him a quick lesson on assumptions.

"Did this...have some meaning I was intended to gleam?"
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-11 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
"Pike didn't alter your mind. Your emotions." Spock turns his head and dry heaves once, which is a blessing. It means there is nothing else in his stomach for him to get up. That has to be a good sign. The damp towel dabs at his face as he bends his head forward and stares down, into the water before he flushes it away, just to have something to do. The sound is deafening for a second with his head so close. When it clears away, there's nothing but silence.

"We hated one another. I marooned you on a planet you could have died on. Should have, statistically speaking." And he was, at the time, processing the loss of his entire planet, mother, bondmate, and family. But he's long since stopped giving himself slack for that; he could have directly led to someone's death. All because he wasn't aware enough to recuse himself from command.

"Since then...we have become close. I consider you one of the most important people in my life, Jim. But...your comparison. It is not...entirely equivalent. My counterpart touched your mind. Instilled feelings and memories that were not your own. Things that could have impacted...everything. A healer...could remedy these transfers."

And Jim could lose whatever it was that had made him think Spock was worth his time in the first place.

He presses the towel to his eyes, trying to stave off the headache impending. "Forgive me. I am...not of a suitable mental state to have this conversation, anymore. I will return to my room and....speak with you in the morning."
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[personal profile] logicabounds 2016-10-12 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
In the week that followed Jim's conversation, Spock has been doing his best impression of himself about four months before he could attach James Kirk's name to a face.

That is to say, he has been acting as though he barely knows the man.

It takes a fair bit of work. Avoiding lunch appointments is the easiest bit of it. Turning down chess in order to 'focus on his reports'. It is almost a miracle that Jim could find Spock at all for the meeting with the healer, what with how busy he kept himself. But it was easier that way, he supposed. A necessary adjustment that was better made early as opposed to late.

The whole trip over to see T'Liyal, Spock's eyes are focused ahead of him. Back straight, face neutral as stone; its the posture and presence he practiced in his room over and over again, each time he cracked in front of a child in school. The one that he had honed over the years to fall effortlessly into whenever his mind was going too fast and his emotions too unruly to be satisfactorily contained.

Shields up.

That is, until they are sitting in front of the healer and he can almost feel the disgust rolling off of her. And his own loathing begins to seep back up, filling each and every single crack he hadn't been careful enough to plug over. At least, this time, he wasn't going to throw up.

Glancing at Jim, he knows that the man is at the very least conversational in Vulcan. But for this, he wants some sort of privacy, so he takes a risk on an archaic dialect (both a risk that Jim wouldn't know it and an even greater risk that T'Liyal would).

"It is as he describes," he explains carefully, for her benefit. "I fear that he may have been given...subconscious memories or feelings from the Vulcan he melded with. I believe he would agree that these should be removed. For the autonomy of his mind."

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